UN talks nearing weak deal on climate
by KARL RITTER and MICHAEL CASEY, Associated Press
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Local and international activists march inside a conference center under a giant statue of a spider to demand urgent action to address climate change at the U.N. climate talks in Doha, Qatar, Friday, Dec. 7, 2012. A dispute over money clouded U.N. climate talks Friday, as rich and poor countries sparred over funds meant to help the developing world cover the rising costs of mitigating global warming and adapting to it. (AP Photo/Osama Faisal)
Local and international activists march inside a conference center under a giant statue of a spider to demand urgent action to address climate change at the U.N. climate talks in Doha, Qatar, Friday, Dec. 7, 2012. A dispute over money clouded U.N. climate talks Friday, as rich and poor countries sparred over funds meant to help the developing world cover the rising costs of mitigating global warming and adapting to it. (AP Photo/Osama Faisal)
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DOHA, Qatar (AP) — Bleary-eyed negotiators from nearly 200 countries haggled through the night over new draft agreements on emissions cuts by rich countries and aid for poor as United Nations climate talks spilled into Saturday.

The two-week conference was set to finish Friday, but as so often in the annual U.N.-led talks, negotiators struggled to reach an agreement, especially on money matters.

After all-night wrangling, the latest drafts Saturday lacked the strong commitments on climate action and financing by rich countries that poor countries had hoped for. But they did include a text on "loss and damage," a relatively new concept which relates to damages from climate-related disasters.

Island nations under threat from rising sea levels have been pushing for some mechanism to help them cope with such natural catastrophes, but the United States has pushed back over concerns it might be held liable for the cleanup bill since it is the world's second-biggest emitter behind China.

A final agreement from the talks was expected Saturday.

Countries plan to adopt a new climate pact by 2015. The Doha conference focused on side issues such as extending an existing emissions treaty for rich countries and increasing financing to help poor countries deal with global warming.

Poor countries came into the talks demanding a timetable on how rich countries would scale up climate change aid for them to $100 billion annually by 2020 — a general pledge that was made three years ago.

But rich nations, including the United States, members of the European Union and Japan are still grappling with the effects of a financial crisis and were not interested in detailed talks on aid in Doha.

The latest texts included no reference to any mid-term financing targets, just a general pledge to "identify pathways for mobilizing the scaling up of climate finance."

Quamrul Chowdhury of Bangladesh, lead negotiator for the group of least developed countries, said it was the "weakest outcome" he had seen since the U.N. climate talks started two decades ago.

"We are reluctant to accept it. But anyhow we have to look at it. Most of our delegation has already left," he said.

The goal of the U.N. talks is to keep temperatures from rising more than 3.6 degrees Fahrenheit (2 Celsius), compared to preindustrial times. Temperatures have already risen about 1.4 degrees Fahrenheit (0.8 Celsius) above that level, according to the latest report by the U.N.'s top climate body.

A recent projection by the World Bank showed temperatures are on track to rise by up to 7.2 Fahrenheit (4 Celsius) by the year 2100.
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December 08, 2012
I read this article and continue to be taken aback by the audacity of the climate change crowd. I am taken aback by a couple of things. One is that they think that humans can affect the climate at all. Two is that they believe the rest of us can't see through this charade. There has been no warming for 16 years. When the Earth warms or cools, it is simply because that's what it is doing. We do not affect it.

The amount of CO2 that man puts into the atmosphere is dwarfed by the amount that the Earth itself puts into the atmosphere. CO2 does not cause warming. Warming RESULTS in a CO2 increase.

Water vapor plays a much larger role in the greenhouse effect. But you can't tax water vapor can you?

The article says that the World Bank is "projecting a 7.2 degree rise in average temperature by 2100. How? Computer models where they input worst-case scenarios in order to further the hoax of global warming?

When alleged scientists refuse to discuss climate science with those who disagree, then they cease to be scientists. Real scientists invite disagreement and skepticism. Real scientists do not doctor data. Real scientist do not create algorithms to produce "hockey stick" graphs so they can "prove" that man is destroying the world with the most reliable energy source ever discovered.

The purpose of the UN is to destroy America. The purpose of climate change purveyors is to destroy capitalism and free markets. Do not believe them for they lie repeatedly, as communists tend to do.
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