Same-sex weddings in Washington to begin on Sunday
by RACHEL LA CORTE, Associated Press
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Former Air Force officer Margaret Witt, right, and Lori Johnson, left, stand in their south hill home, Monday, Dec. 3, 2012 in Spokane, Wash. They are planning to marry in a few weeks after receiving one of the first marriage licenses for same sex couples this week. Witt fought the Army over "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" and was with President Obama when he signed the repeal. (AP Photo/The Spokesman-Review, Jesse Tinsley)
Former Air Force officer Margaret Witt, right, and Lori Johnson, left, stand in their south hill home, Monday, Dec. 3, 2012 in Spokane, Wash. They are planning to marry in a few weeks after receiving one of the first marriage licenses for same sex couples this week. Witt fought the Army over "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" and was with President Obama when he signed the repeal. (AP Photo/The Spokesman-Review, Jesse Tinsley)
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OLYMPIA, WASH. (AP) — Two retired military women who fought for the rights of gays in the military were among the hundreds of couples who received their marriage licenses this week as Washington state's voter-approved law allowing same-sex marriage took effect.

Former Air Force flight nurse Maj. Margaret Witt, of Spokane, and retired nurse, Army Col. Grethe Cammermeyer, of Whidbey Island, both successfully challenged the military's ban on open service by gays and lesbians. They were first in line on Thursday in their home counties to receive their licenses with their partners.

"First, to be able to serve their country openly was in and of itself historical, and a significant step forward for our nation. And now to be able to legally wed the person they love is yet another historical milestone," said Anne Levinson, a gay rights activist who worked on the campaign to approve same-sex marriage. "They're remarkable women."

Gov. Chris Gregoire and Secretary of State Sam Reed certified the election on Wednesday afternoon, and the law took effect at 12:01 a.m. Thursday, when couples in Seattle lined up to pick up their licenses just after midnight.

Because the state has a three-day waiting period, the earliest that weddings can take place is Sunday.

"It will be an amazing energetic, joyous experience," said Witt, who will marry her partner of nine years, Laurie Johnson, on Dec. 15 in Spokane.

Witt, 48, was discharged from the Air Force Reserve because the military learned she was a lesbian, but a federal judge found her dismissal unconstitutional in 2010, and Witt retired with a full military pension last year. She is currently a physical therapist at the Veterans Administration Hospital in Spokane.

The policy that banned gay and lesbian members of the military from serving openly, known as "don't ask, don't tell," was repealed last year, but Witt said there's more to be done.

Since gay marriage is still not recognized under federal law, Witt said that military family members are still at risk of not being recognized as next of kin by the military.

"I'd like to see all military members and their families recognized and taken care of," she said. "As far as we've come in the military, my job's not done."

Cammermeyer plans to get married Sunday at her home in Langley, joined by nine other couples who will also get married there before her annual Christmas party that will also serve as a wedding reception.

Cammermeyer, 70, earned national attention with her fight to stay in the Washington National Guard. She was fired in 1992 after disclosing her sexual orientation during a 1989 interview for a security clearance as chief nurse of the National Guard. A federal judge ordered her reinstated in 1994; the government did not appeal.

Cammermeyer said her ability to now marry Diane Divelbess, her partner of 24 years, was an "opportunity to be treated as a family and as equals."

"There's still a lot of inequities that state law can't take care of, but it certainly shows that we are one of many states now that are moving toward recognition," Cammermeyer said.

Last month, Washington, Maine and Maryland became the first states to pass same-sex marriage by popular vote. They joined six other states — New York, Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont — and the District of Columbia that had already enacted laws or issued court rulings permitting same-sex marriage.

Referendum 74 in Washington state had asked voters to either approve or reject the state law legalizing same-sex marriage that legislators passed earlier this year. That law was signed by Gregoire in February but was put on hold pending the outcome of the election. Nearly 54 percent of voters approved the measure.

The law doesn't require religious organizations or churches to perform marriages, and it doesn't subject churches to penalties if they don't marry gay or lesbian couples.

In addition to private ceremonies that will start taking place across Washington state this weekend, Seattle City Hall will open for several hours on Sunday, and several local judges are donating their time to marry couples. Aaron Pickus, a spokesman for Mayor Mike McGinn, said that more than 140 couples have registered to get married at City Hall, and weddings will begin at 10 a.m. In Olympia, a group of local judges has offered to perform wedding ceremonies just after midnight on Sunday at the Thurston County courthouse.

Married same-sex couples will still be denied access to federal pensions, health insurance and other government benefits available to heterosexual couples because the 1996 federal Defense of Marriage Act, known as DOMA, bars federal recognition of gay unions. The U.S. Supreme Court is expected to take up gay marriage sometime during the current term. Several pending cases challenge the federal benefit provision of DOMA, and a separate appeal asks the justices to decide whether federal courts were correct in striking down California's Proposition 8, the amendment that outlawed gay marriage after it had been approved by courts in the nation's largest state.
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jb1981
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December 13, 2012
I am so, so happy for the residents of WA, and I eagerly await the day that marriage is equal for all! I just know that God is smiling down because of this tremendous showing of love. Welcome to the civil rights movement of our time, folks... 20 years from now, the children in our schools learning about American history will wonder why there was ever a debate about this at all (much like how my generation felt reading about segregation and "separate but equal").
Who?_Me?
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December 12, 2012
Matthew 7:1-3

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

People, whatever another person or group does is NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! Take care of yourself and your own problems! IF (please note, I said IF) homosexuality is a sin, then the Lord will take care of it. If it is NOT a sin, they YOU are the sinner for judging others. That call IS NOT YOURS TO MAKE! Leave it alone!!!

BTW, 87% of all statistics are made up on the spot so unless you're willing to cite sources, don't be spouting numbers.
jarnoldcr
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December 12, 2012
Who_Me,

As with any argument, you must define the terms. What does Jesus mean by the word "judge" in this passage? The Periscope Adulterae (John 7:53-8:11) gives us some insight when Jesus describes the adulterous woman's behavior as sinful but does not "judge" her (i.e. condemn/kill). Paul the Apostle suggests that it is the responsibility of the Church to judge fellow believers (1 Cor. 5:12). Even in the passage you reference, one might suggest that Jesus isn't condemning judging whether or not a behavior is sinful, but rather doing so hypocritically (first remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye- vs.5). I've written more about this if you're interested...

http://jarnoldcr.wordpress.com/2012/07/17/howshallwejudge/
WWrome
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December 12, 2012
Lets talk about these regular and normal straight people and the exemplary lives they have lived: let's name some of their accomplishments: war, genocide, the holocaust, abortion, teen pregnancy, 9-11, stoning women, 95% of all cases of pedophilia, slavery, child soldiers, ethnic cleansing, tortue, spousal abuse, a divorce rate greater than 50%, "16 and pregnant", "Honey boo boo", adultery, "Jersey Shore", steroid use in sports, gang activity, "Beverly Hills Housewives", "The Bachelor", "Teen Mom". So, based upon actions, not words, which group of people in this country have more mental and emotional problems?

So why don't all you two bit hillbilly preacher wannabes get down from your ridiculous pulpits and look in the mirrors. What kind of sad and MIESRABLE life must you live to focus so much hate and scorn on people whom have never harmed you in any way. People who are mostly law abiding, hard working, well educated, tax paying citizens of this country who want their relationships legally recognized the same as yours?

So YOUR God doesn't approve? Well,then you better not act out on those deep dark fantasies that keep you so focused on writing hateful comments just to prove you don't secretly want a little man on man action. But until we turn into Iran, what YOUR God approves of is somewhat irrelevant to the rest of us as long as the actions don't harm others.

And these posts are even more ridiculous because almost every gay or lesbian I know is a better contributor to this society than 90% of the uneducated, illiterate, lazy, hypocritical, low tax paying, brainwashed cracker who make these posts.

THANK GOD, IN AMERICA, MORAL RIGHT AND GOOD ALWAYS WINS, IN THE END, OVER IGNORANCE AND HATE. So game, set match, you bigots, gay marriage is coming to Georgia so you better get used to it.

And Lester Maddox will tell you the pick axe isn't an effective defense against the march of equality.
Letsbefriendly
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December 11, 2012
I have to admit my attempt to be like Christ is weak in comparison to him. But I have tried to put aside the fact that I see it as a terrible sin and listened to gay people and try to be friendly. It hasn't stopped a good many of them from showing pure hate for me because I'm strait. One admits being abused as a child and seems to end up being abused by all his partners. One lady I know admits she has real problems and takes meds every day or become violent. Another is a man 51 years old who's step son came to me and wanted to kill him for getting him on meth and abusing him at age 5. Another is a young woman whos partner seen her with a beer and got mad saying you all know she beats me when she drinks. And the stories I hear everyday in some story or march tells how the whole world should change to fit what they believe is right. Ok now give me a reason to think anything good will come from the gay movement. Because all I have ever seen is twisted, demanding and abusive. I'm not hating anyone. I'm giving you a chance to try and face what most people I know believe about you. I'll end this with Ibelieve the Bible is a manual given to mankind as to how we should live to have a happy life. It gives examples and lessons that can lead to a good future without the problems many of us face today. As we turn away from it we see our world fall apart. Not just mine but yours as well. It is arrogant for us to believe that in the past few hundred years we have learned more than those in the thousands of years before us. We dont live as long as I see even chldren have died from heart attacks. That was the very old only when I was a child. You cant say we have a better life as we have been going in a downward movement all of my life. I wish you all luck and love. May God Bless You and Merry Christmas! and I truly hope that statement is not to much for you have to put up with for my right to freedom.
KingPellinore
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December 11, 2012
Are you serious? Every single homosexual relationship you've encountered is abusive?

That's incredible.
AnewRoman
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December 11, 2012
@letsbefriendly you can't be serious, the things you mentioned happens to straight ,gay,black,white, Hispanic etc..... Like I stated before hate is learned from ignorance.... By the way I have hundreds of gay friends and none of the issues you stated has happened to me nor them... Stop stating false facts to appease your agenda of false religious hatred.... Jesus loves ALL creatures not just the ones who think they are the chosen ones
jarnoldcr
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December 11, 2012
We certainly don't want to make broad generalizations exclusively on personal experience...but reputable groups such as the American Bar Association and American Justice Department have reported that domestic abuse is signficantly more prevalent within same-sex relationships than opposite-sex relationships.

http://www.americanbar.org/groups/domestic_violence/resources/statistics.html

KingPellinore
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December 11, 2012
Actually, what that report states is that domestic violence is REPORTED more commonly among same-sex relationships compared to heterosexual relationships. It does not account for unreported instances.
jarnoldcr
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December 11, 2012
Pellinore,

What reason would we have- other than hopeful speculation- to believe that same-sex couples report violence more frequently than opposite-sex couples...as opposed to assuming that there are more frequent occurences of violence within same-sex relationships?
jarnoldcr
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December 11, 2012
CommonSense,

I'm not aware of any evidence that suggests mental instability is the primary driver of higher suicide rates among LGBT individuals. I'm not a sociologist, but I would venture to guess it is likely a result of a complex web of influences, some perhaps even harsh, unmerited, and oppressive.
AnewRoman
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December 11, 2012
@comonsenserules I'm not sure how many "gay" people you personally know, but the ones I know are mentally stable, happy caring hard working people... Maybe it's you that is mentally unstable with your I'm the perfect chosen Christian attitude, maybe it's your Christian premise that is wrong , it's people like you who are so concerned about other people's lives that they can't see how messed up their own lives are, by the was, yes suicide rates among mostly young gay people are at a higher rate but that is because of narrow minded people who spread this type of hatred you are spreading, not because they are mentally unstable
KingPellinore
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December 11, 2012
Being against gay marriage in order to prevent domestic violence is like being against straight marriage in hopes it will cause the divorce rate to fall.
WWrome
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December 12, 2012
JARNCR, while I understand the Fox News style of reporting "Facts" can be sensational, Facts can be checked. If you bother to read the American Bar Association website section on Domestic Violence, you find in fact that African Americans have by far the highest level of domestic violence, followed by the Hispanic population. Should they not be allowed to get married? Come on,admit what you really think, they shouldn't should they?

Moreover, other than one dubious quote from a 12 year old report, all the other data shows LGBT domestic violence no greater than the national average. And this alone suggests its lower as they don't have an accurate denominator as there are no accurate statistics for the actual number of LBGT relationships in the United States--unlike the number of African Americans for which there are reasonably accurate statistics.

Don't be bothered by the facts, just don't let those gays get married otherwise who will you have to look down your nose at?
dbeall
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December 10, 2012
Are we really going to do this again?
MistahROME
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December 09, 2012
And we can't figure out why this Country is going to Hades in a hand bag.Really!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ohmy!
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December 10, 2012
wow you are so right! because God knows it has nothing to do with self righteous heterosexuals who have a divorce rate of over 50% or wait maybe it is because of the strung out meth heads who keep giving birth to children they can not take care of, or my personal favorite all of the millions of Americans who are on disability bilking the system for billions, but lets not worry about those leeches, lets just blame the Gays, because all of those other "sins" are forgiven? Ignorance at its finest........
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